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VINTAGE ENAMEL LAPEL PIN GERMANY GERMAN DDR DTV SPORT SOCIETY LOGO 1950s x
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PIN DDR DVFL Athletics Association of the German Democratic Republic 70s year
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What's the difference between the German Shepherd Working line West vs. East German (DDR)?

I was wondering what the difference is between the different types of German Shepherd working line dogs, mainly West German and East German. Which lines do you prefer? Also, are there any famous dogs from either lines that are well known?


Best Answer...

Answer:

WOT "working lines"?
In my rarely-humble opinion, a working dog is one that earns its living every day, so is a detection dog or a guide dog or a herding dog. Police dogs work, but only in bursts. Search&Rescue dogs work, but rarely for more than a day.
People who rabbit on about "working dogs" almost invariably actually mean SPORT dogs. Sport dogs are as close to the correct GSD as are show dogs - in both cases the breeders aim for extremes, it's just that their desired extremes are in very different directions.

WOT "DDR lines"?
Could you read, back when the Berlin Wall tumbled (November 1989) and the DDR ceased to exist? Work out how far back in the pedigree each actual DDR dog must be by now.

Realise that WHERE a pooch comes from is far less important than WHO chose the breeding partners (and why), and HOW the progeny were reared.

However, I can probably satisfy your current curiosity by giving the pre-history of a line of GSDs working in the Catskills in New York state:
MANY years ago, just before the DDR was finally closed off from the west, a young shepherd realised that the Soviet police were after him, so he & his GSD hurriedly escaped to West Germany. That makes both him and his dog "DDR lines".
In West Germany he leased an occasional bit.ch and mated her to his current dog, and whenever he could he competed in the SV's annual HGH championship, winning in these years with these dogs:
1954 ERWIN vd. SOBRIGAUER HÖHE
1959 CHLOTAR v. DREIBRÜDERHOF
1963 ERLO vd. STAMMHERDE RAMHOLZ
1967, 1969, 1970 NANDO vd. STAMMHERDE RAMHOLZ
1972, 1973, 1975 WITZ vd. STAMMHERDE RAMHOLZ
1976 EDO vd STAMMHERDE RAMHOLZ
1981, 1984, 1985 FAX
All trained by, and most bred by, Manfred Heyne (for their parentage see http://www.german-shepherdherding.com/manfred-english/index.html which is actually an interview with Manfred). And he did what was deemed impossible - won the HGH trophy outright, so that the SV had to have a new one made!
Then a GSD-loving Yank accountant bought a run-down farm and went to Germany to have her bit.ch mated to Manfred's dog, and to learn all she could from him before returning to Yankeeland and whelping her bit.ch, from which she kept "Nicky". That "Nicky" was instinctively a GENUINE GSD cannot be doubted. In addition to "explaining" to her that what she was telling him to do with the flock was wrong, his character was such that he forced to a stop a bulldozer that was attempting to take a short cut across the day's patrol line; yet on another occasion, when a city-kids baseball team was left in his care while the farmer made a hurried trip to town, he trained the boys so that some patrolled the boundary for him while others patted him and another fetched him bowls of water.
"Nicky" died nearly 2 years ago, but she currently has 7 of his children & grand children working or started, including one who was returned to her from Germany when Manfred became too old to continue herding.
Some of "Nicky"s exploits are featured in the http://www.ddrlegends.com/nicky.html web-site.

Some other GSDs which showed the traits we love in our breed, but which didn't get the Hollywood or TV treatment were:
• 1943 Chips, a GSD x Husky x Collie donated to the 3rd Infantry Division as a sentry dog by his New York master, served in 8 campaigns that took him through North Africa, Sicily, Italy, France and Germany. On 10 July, during the invasion of Sicily, his unit was pinned down by machine gun fire. Chips charged the post and, despite taking several bullets, mauled the occupants & forced their surrender. Dwight D Eisenhower met him & awarded him a Silver Star and a Purple Heart, making him the most-decorated war dog of WW2 (The army later withdrew them, scared of the awards insulting human soldiers or their families)
• 1944 On 6 June Brian, a GSD attached to Britain’s 13th Battalion Airborne Division, parachuted into Normandy with his unit at the start of D-Day
• 1947 On 15 August an explosion in the William pit, under the sea off Whitehaven, UK, killed 104 miners. Jet of Iada, retired after an immense amount of rescue work during the Blitz, was taken underground WITHOUT the breathing equipment that the rescue workers needed to survive the toxic fumes. Though gasping for breath, Jet was nevertheless alert enough to push his handler to safety just before another section of tunnel collapsed. For the rest of the story, ask the Breed Council of Britain for copies of its September, October & November 2008 National Magazine.
2001 - want to bet that every GSD working its paws off after the collapse of the Twin Towers had DDR parents?
Forget about famous ancestors - we are breeding with just what is available via the sire & dam and their 4 parents. Checking further back is important for avoiding recessives, but not for producing the points you DO want.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
"In GSDs" as of 1967